Budget Committee Meeting Session II 09-29-26

Good afternoon.

The September 29th Select Budget Committee meeting will come back to order.

It is now at 1.35 p.m.

Will the clerk please call the roll?

Council Member Rink.

Present.

Council Member DeBetta.

Council Member Saka.

Here.

Council Member Foster.

Here.

Council President Hollingsworth.

Council Member Juarez.

Here.

Councilmember Kettle.

Pugh.

Councilmember Lin.

Here.

And Chair Strauss.

Present.

Seven present.

Thank you.

Anyone who's not here is excused until they arrive in Office of Planning, Community, and Development.

You are the only thing standing between us and our central staff presentations that come in a couple weeks.

Council President Hollingsworth is now present with us as well.

So no pressure, we're excited to see you.

With that, if you'd like to, we're gonna, if the clerk could read the third item into the record and then we're gonna switch right over to you.

We'll have Council Member Lynn do introductory and concluding comments.

I'll always go back to the committee table to see if you have something more to add.

With that, clerk.

Agenda item three, Office of Planning and Community Development for briefing and discussion.

Thank you, take it away.

Good morning, Chair, or no, good afternoon.

It's afternoon now, isn't it?

Thank you very much for having us and for allowing us to do a presentation of our proposed budget for 27 and 28, and also much appreciation.

I know that you have spent many long hours on the dais listening to presentations, and we're honored to be the last to present.

So we are here to talk about Office of Planning and Community Development's 2027 and 2028 proposed budget.

And I will be presenting.

I'm the director, Arriga Kitindongo, and introductions.

Good afternoon, council members.

Melissa Wilkie, finance manager for OPCD.

Allie Panucci, budget director.

Ms. Schwitzen, Director of Council Central Staff.

All right, next slide, please.

So, Office of Planning and Community Development, we're celebrating our 10-year anniversary this year.

We're very excited about that.

We were established to lead citywide planning efforts for the city and ensure that investments come in and out ensure that investments that are made across our capital departments are aligned and that we are being fiscally responsible regarding our capital investments and our investments in neighborhoods across the city.

We coordinate with city departments to ensure that as we all do our work, that it is aligned not only with the values and intentions of the administration, but also that we are in alignment with the high-level policy guidance that we've all agreed upon through the comprehensive plan.

One of my responsibilities alongside Allie is to co-chair the capital subcabinet, which facilitates a robust discussion around our policymaking and investments that support all of our Seattle neighborhoods and BIPOC communities.

Next slide.

So, OPCD is divided into four different divisions.

Long range planning, land use policy and strategic initiatives, community planning, and our equitable development initiative, which I'll go into some greater detail on.

You're also aware that we also house the Seattle Design Commission and the Seattle Planning Commission.

Both of those commissions operate entirely independently of OPCD staff and have their own charters.

Next slide.

So the priorities that you see for 27 and 28 are pretty consistent with what you see year over year in our office.

So thank you again for passing the comprehensive plan in December of 25. As we moved into 26, we had our first set of annual amendments.

Again, thank you for the passage of our annual amendments this year.

We have other steps related to comp plan.

So the phase two zoning legislation, which is currently on hold, the phase three work that we have underway, As I mentioned before, we'll go into some detail related to our EDI program.

We also have staff that are dedicated to the development of regional center plans, which were introduced as a new requirement from Puget Sound Regional Council to provide complete regional center planning beginning in 2018. We also have staff dedicated to working both internally with SDOT and externally with Sound Transit related to station area planning and working hand in hand with community regarding visualization of how our communities will grow and take the greatest advantage of transit oriented development opportunities.

And then finally on this slide, we have a couple of really important special projects.

One, continued leadership.

We have an inter-agency partnership that looks at South Downtown revitalization.

and then we're also have staff dedicated to working on future LED I-5 planning.

Next slide.

So EDI, you're all familiar with.

Our program is an anti-displacement strategy.

It is a way for the city to be invested with community partners.

BIPOC organizations that are embedded in community providing services in the way that only those organizations know how and can and the investments that we make through this program allow those organizations to stay in place in large part because we are helping them to build a facility or invest in the building of a facility that is theirs to own, which not only stems displacement, but also helps to build generational wealth.

Next slide.

Some good news from 2026. We are now, for the first time since I've been in this position, fully staffed for our EDI program.

so we have eight full-time FTEs.

We had two successful RFP rounds this year, one closed, one open.

We also had a number of program administration improvements which we've been working on the past couple of years and I can talk a little bit more about that.

We also was very excited about this.

We kicked off a strategic planning effort, which is something I'd like to call EDI 2.0, where we're looking at how have we been successful in the first 10 years?

And then what are the things that we can continue to do to be more collaborative, more effective, more strategic as we look at continued investments across the city?

Lastly, on this slide, I just want to remind folks that we have been working with Seattle IT on a database development so that we can track more closely and more easily how the program is doing, how much drawdown there have been on individual contracts for any of our EDI partners.

That project is still underway.

Next slide.

So I'm not gonna spend any time on the numbers on this slide, but I do wanna say a couple of things I think are important.

One, as of 2022, we only had eight completed projects.

As of today, we have 91 EDI partners, We have over 23 completed projects and, you know, Thank you to all of you.

Thank you Council Member Rivera for holding us to account and providing us the inspiration to tighten up our program, be more strategic about how we could invest with existing partners to help move along projects more quickly.

And then also be a little bit more strategic about how we invested new dollars for new projects partners.

What we've really done is done some right sizing related to not only the dollars that we provide for existing partners, but also like how many new things we take on a year.

So you'll note that like with the 2026 awards, we only had four new projects and four new $75,000 kind of visioning program dollars.

Next slide.

So looking ahead, I think we've been very fortunate that the program has grown and the budget for the program has grown year over year.

It is anticipated to exceed 29 million in 2027. We will, as we always do, work closely with the EDI Advisory Board related to specific criteria for the 2027 RFP.

We will also work with the EDI Board as we continue our strategic planning process and develop long-term program and process improvements.

we anticipate that we should have a very exciting strategic plan and implementation plan for EDI 2.0 by the end of next year.

Next slide.

And I think this is where I pass to you, Melissa.

Thank you.

So I think that takes us into our budget slide.

OPCD's 2027 proposed budget remains largely consistent with the current year.

It makes several moderate reductions, including the elimination of two vacant positions and maintains existing services.

The table on the slide actually looks like a more significant reduction than it actually is.

The reduction you see here is primarily due to the removal of one-time items that I think we saw with some other departments as well that were added in the 2026 budget.

Of those, I think 3 million were specific items for specific EDI projects, and some of it was for North Aurora planning.

You will also see on this slide the OPCD's total position count is reduced from 50.5 FTE to 49 FTE, which is a full-time pocket and a half-time pocket.

Both of these pockets are currently vacant and they have been vacant all year.

So the most significant policy change in OPCD's budget is a fund swap of $338,000 of EDI funds, jumpstart funds to support general fund overhead staff.

EDI's total budget in 2027, total non-labor budget is 26.8 million, which makes it about 70% of OPCD's overall budget.

The swap of 338,000 to support general fund staff represents about a 1% reduction to EDI's non-labor budgets, which could equate to about four capacity building awards or one pre-development award.

The next slide details the position changes in OPCD's proposed budgets.

As we mentioned in the budget overview, the proposed budget eliminates two vacant positions.

In both cases, the positions have been vacant all year, and the work has already been distributed among other staff in the office.

Work is continuing on all items on our work program.

There is no impact to OPCD's work program for next year as a result of these vacant positions going away.

And this is the final position summary for OPCD summarizes the position changes from 50.5 to 49. The other position change within our budget is related to a sunset date extension.

And that is just to align two items in the work program for 27 and 28. So with that, I'll take us to questions.

Thank you very much, thorough and quick.

And Councilmember Vice Chair Rivera was here while you were switching between slide two and three, which was still the introductory parts of it.

With that, Councilmember Lin as Chair of the Committee overseeing the department, you're recognized to kick us off and close us out.

All right, thank you, Chair.

Don't have a lot to kick us off.

I think I'll sort of reserve, if that's OK, Chair, any sort of follow-up questions, depending on what my colleagues have to ask.

But I guess I'll just start off with one just sort of general question.

Obviously, we've had impacts from litigation, including the Growth Management Hearings Board decision.

Could you just speak to, in terms of your budgeting and planning, for that and some of the stationary planning, including the exciting, we have the opening, I believe, and so we gotta get out of here, make sure that Council Member Juarez can get to the opening there up at Pinehurst.

But could you just speak to how that does or does not affect sort of staffing

I thought you were going to ask me about money.

So no effect to staffing.

I'm trying to think of what the short version is.

We're still hard at work on the comp plan activities, like I had mentioned before, both phase two and phase three.

And we have sufficient dollars in our budget presently to cover those activities and the staff that we have.

We've had to do a bunch of realigning and adjusting to be responsive to the work as it has changed, including currently making adjustments related to the Growth Management Hearings Board determinations.

But we're able to do that with the staff that we have, and all of the staff are fully allocated.

Thank you, Chair.

That's all I have to kick us off.

Fantastic.

Colleagues, questions, comments?

Now is the time.

Council Member Rivera.

Nice to see you, Director Kirindongo, and thanks for being here, Melissa.

Nice to see you again, too.

I just want to thank you for partnering with me and working together.

I know I gave you feedback.

I met with some of the EDI back in 24 recipients, and I know they had a lot of feedback in terms of wanting to meet together in this quarterly way, and I think you made changes to that, and can you speak a little to that, too?

this is important, right?

They're all at different stages of their development of their projects and they wanted to hear from each other to get ideas for how to best move forward and be successful and of course completing more projects in a shorter amount of time is really outstanding because if these projects don't get developed they actually help no one and that's the point.

So really appreciate you made tweaks actually to the program in order to make sure that we were going to help community develop those projects faster.

And so I really appreciate that you did that and would love to hear if those quarterly meetings are happening or if they're happening at all, however often I think community and I have continued to hear from some of the folks in community that say, you know, that is important to them.

Thank you for the question.

So we're kind of doing it as a multi-layer cake.

So with the strategic planning effort, we have begun doing some convening.

So we have a...

Catherine Cortes, who's our division manager, will just kill me later, because I'm not going to get any of the names of the committees correct.

Excuse me.

We're in the middle of a meeting, so we'll continue.

Please continue.

Sure.

So we have a number of convenings on the calendar, some with a larger body of stakeholders for a full-day convening, and then some smaller sessions with work groups over specific topic areas.

In addition to that, outside of the strategic planning process, we also have started to do a separate convening.

We actually just last week had a celebration for new EDI partners along with existing ones at Bird Bar Place, who is obviously one of our EDI partners.

which was really great.

So I very much heard that piece of it as well and it was something that had gone dormant during COVID and now we're back in full swing in terms of getting people together and sharing best practices and kind of where people were pinch points on projects and where people having needs that they can not only share with staff, but share with each other so we can try to figure out where there are opportunities for betterments.

Yeah.

Thank you, Director.

And then you also made some other tweaks to the program as well, I know, and so really appreciate those in order to help those projects along faster.

Yeah.

Yeah, and I thank you for the prompt.

And one of the things I should have mentioned is that we did do a request for qualifications to get a whole cadre of technical assistants, consultants who now help.

They help existing partners with their projects in different areas of the work, whether it's finance or construction-related or operations-related.

or operations planning.

And then, We also have technical consultants that help EDI partners actually be responsive to the city related to our application process.

And what we have seen there is a huge uptick in applicants being able to provide complete applications and ones where, you know, the need for us to go back and ask for more is very much reduced.

and their ability to get through the process to a complete award or a successful award has also increased.

Yeah, thank you.

Thank you for sharing that.

Thank you, Chair.

Thank you, Councilmember Rivera.

Councilmember Saka.

Thank you, Chair, and thank you, Director Quirindongo and your team for being here, presentation, and the offline information you shared earlier about my question for OH.

I'll start with...

I'll just say as a council member that represents District 1 was really excited to see the ReConnect South Park was identified in the proposed budget as sort of this major ongoing community planning effort with the department.

So just be curious to better understand how can OPCD partner with South Park community groups to design infrastructure and land use strategies that simultaneously reduce displacement risks, strengthen climate resilience, and address longstanding environmental challenges and associated, in the case of ReConnect South Park, like transportation burdens.

Yeah, no, I appreciate the question.

Thank you.

So we've been really excited to partner with community and organizations in South Park related to a visioning for what's the future of that part of our city and the South Park neighborhood specifically.

There's lots of moving parts there, right?

There is infrastructure.

There's, in the big picture, sea level rise and impacts there.

We are in partnership with SPU, with Office of Sustainability, and with community organizations.

related to what future investments might look like alongside SDOT and WSDOT as well.

We have a regular reoccurring meeting with WSDOT regarding not only Reconnect South Park but a number of projects in our office where we want to make sure that the work that we do partners well with WSDOT's efforts to do their entire corridor study and so those to reconnect South Park work that we're doing.

We want to have it help inform some of the decision-making that's a part of that process as well.

So I think, you know, you're never done.

I think that what we've been able to do that I've been proud of over the last three years is to build some well-greased conduits for coordination and discussion as we try to build the plane while we're flying it.

As you know, we released a futures visioning study related to Reconnect South Park with four possible futures, and that will inform some of our future work, and we, through the Reconnecting Communities grant program, we have, I believe, upwards of $4 million now related to work in South Park, so a lot of good work ahead.

Thank you for that.

Appreciate the initial clarity there.

And my next question pertains to your department's role in facilitating critical major transportation or transit infrastructure upgrades, specifically light rail.

So how can your department work collaboratively with communities that are directly impacted by light rail expansion.

So I'm thinking about, you know, in my district, stakeholders in the West Seattle community, specifically North Delridge and the Junction, Soto, to ensure that upcoming light rail station area planning and future place-based planning support equitable development strengthen neighborhood connections and identity, foster a vibrant and walkable set of neighborhoods, whether it's the West Seattle Junction, the new North Delridge Station, Soto, walkable and vibrant business districts, and reflect community-driven priorities.

Again, thank you for the question.

I would say there's two different dedicated programs that we have in our office right now.

We have our our dedicated station area planning staff, and they are very focused right now on West Seattle, and not only the station area planning effort for all the stations that you just named, but also what is the framework that we will utilize to take community input, have that inform the planning process, and then have the resulting plan overlays adopted in such a way that it It's not only a discoverable exercise, but such that it actually informs the private development and public-private partnerships that result after the station boxes are complete.

We're still working on that.

The other thing I would suggest is that, you know, we have $1.75 million in federal dollars, which is associated with equitable transit-oriented development specifically.

So we have a community advisory group, a CAG, that is made up of community stakeholders that is helping to inform us about how we should be thinking about future city investments and public-private partnerships, as well as who are community organizations that want to be included in those future planning and development opportunities, and then also hard with thinking about black and brown and small business in terms of displacement, construction mitigation, inclusion in future transfer and development opportunities, and not as an afterthought, but in forming both the planning effort and the visioning.

So again, I feel really optimistic about the work and the opportunity, acknowledging that, yeah, there's a lot of complicated moving parts there.

Sure.

No, I appreciate that answer.

And last year, we added a budget amendment for $250,000 for anti-displacement work, and I think that was distributed by OED.

But the ultimate challenge and addressing the ultimate challenge I think your department is in terms of displacement.

The last thing you talked about, which is one I want to double click on just a little more, and I appreciated your answer there.

I really was honing in and loving the last thing you talked about in particular in terms of supporting and mitigating against displacement, against the existing residents and businesses, especially the black and brown ones and small businesses.

So what role do you envision your department playing in terms of doing exactly that during this upcoming year, leveraging these budget resources you do have to support anti-displacement efforts of sound transit impacted small businesses and residents, especially on the small business front?

Sure.

So I think it's a multi-pronged approach.

I would say that What's that?

That felt like an earthquake to me.

We're going to pause.

We're going to stay at ease.

I may ask to clear the council chambers in a moment, but I just want to check to make sure that...

So we're going to go at ease for just a minute.

If you can hit the microphones and we'll come right back on in just a second.

Welcome back.

We have just experienced a 4.0 earthquake, six kilometers west of Burley, Washington.

And so we are gonna do this double time.

If we have an aftershock or another earthquake, we will pause and we'll just end committee.

So I'm gonna ask us to do this double time.

I'm also gonna ask any questions that can be held for SharePoint.

to be held for SharePoint.

If we do have another earthquake, please stay away from the glass.

Please get under something.

So if you are sitting in chambers, I would sit on the edges or on the back with that and stay away from this glass.

So sir, with the show up Seattle hat, I would not sit there, my friend.

Bennett, can you assist our good friend?

Thank you.

Back to you, Director Kirandongo.

And if we can do this, double time.

Thank you.

Yes, so Councilmember Saga responding to your question, I think it is a multi-pronged approach, and I lost my train of thought a little bit there, but I think that, you know, We certainly, through our community advisory group, are looking for identification of opportunities for where we can lean in and where there might be opportunities for future city investments.

and partnerships.

At OPCD, we have a lot of great relationships with the development community, and so as we look at these future TOD sites, as we get closer to the completion of planning efforts and that sort of thing, we will also be very interested to hear from prospective developers what sites are of interest, what developments might look like, what's the role the city will play.

We obviously related to the partnership with Sound Transit.

We're working very closely with SDOT and with SDCI regarding development of the stationary boxes, the stations, and area improvements related to the public realm, but also looking for input from community related to all of those parts and pieces as well.

Last thing I would say is that I think that our relationships with community through our EDI program are also really important not only because all of our partners are already deeply invested in community and will have a lot of guidance related to how they feel community may play a role in future development.

And I think that we want to be mindful of providing a to give you an opportunity to welcome partnership with our EDI partners for future projects.

Got it.

Thank you for that.

Appreciate the comments there.

Finally, I'll just note that For the record, there are six successful applications for Federal Opportunity Zone 2.0 designations, one in the U District and UW campus, another in the U District and the U District station, a third in the U District, an embarrassment of riches, Councilmember Rivera.

One in First Hill, SCU campus near East Yesler.

One in Little Saigon in Central District.

One in Rainer Beach.

And it sounds like the Seattle Housing Authority also successfully submitted an application for the Northgate Regional Center.

So a lot of great opportunity ahead and I appreciate that initial information and the answers there will follow up with additional questions as needed in the tracker.

Thank you, Chair.

Thank you, Councilmember Saka.

Colleagues, any other questions, comments, statements?

I am going to save mine.

For SharePoint, I will just, I was gonna ask you to give us the history of EDI.

I'm just gonna say it rather than do the back and forth.

All that to say is it was a one-time program funded from the super block sale of Denny, Broad Street, of Broad Street.

We were just looking down there.

It's still undeveloped.

That's not our fault at this point, but we were able to sell that right of way for development, which gave us a lot of one-time cash that created the Equitable Development Initiative.

and the only once we passed Jumpstart was their ongoing funding for EDI.

So that is how your budget from 2019 to today has grown 224%.

I have some additional feedback to share with you about the regional plan meeting the other night.

We had another resident who wasn't able to make it there.

So let's just coordinate a little bit better.

I want to bring up Lidding I-5.

We can talk more.

I'm putting it on the record now that it's not just downtown.

We need to also be looking at Pinehurst because we are having that station open today.

I want to reconnect Roosevelt Way so that it's...

I wanna reconnect that environment and we don't have to use public funding.

When we look at Washington, D.C., it was all privately funded, it reconnected their grid, it built housing, it built office space, we can do it up there.

And I'd love to dig in more with the status of your work around North Aurora Avenue, where it's at and where we're going.

So those are my questions that I'll follow up with you about later.

Councilmember Rivera, you had one more question.

Yes, thank you, Chair, I actually meant to raise the outreach so related to the comp plan as you know Director Kirindongo we have a lot of constituents who have felt a lack of communication coming from the from your office from OPCD and I just want to make sure that there is a plan a robust plan to engage folks as we continue every iteration of the comp plan this is really important to constituents as you know and I really appreciate that when you and I talk, I know you always get back to me when I reach out and also they'll want to acknowledge when constituents reach out to the office, they're not always getting that level of communication and outreach and then it makes it difficult because we hear about that.

so whatever I can do to help the department make sure that they are communicating with constituents, responding back to constituents, and even better, prophylactically reaching out to constituents as you all are doing the comp plan, every piece of the comp plan work that is important.

Some members of your team feel like because they did one posting or one touch point that that is sufficient, but that's not how constituents feel it.

And I know you know about this.

So because I mean again Rico you and we've known each other a long time so I know you care about this but this is really important because this impacts the entire city family and so just whatever I can do to work together to make sure that we're doing that OPCD is doing that robust outreach.

I want to be a partner in that because I want to make sure my constituents feel those touch points out of OPCD.

Thank you, Chair.

You're talking super fast.

Thank you.

Back to the committee table for any response.

I appreciate that.

Thank you, Council Member Rivera.

I would say a couple things.

We are working on a plan for the next phase, short version, because of the delays related to phase two legislation and the litigation underway.

The $100,000 that was in the budget for 2026 for community engagement, I made a decision that we needed to hold on those dollars, which we hope to dip into now in 2027 as we kick off a new community engagement.

Right now, you know, we have been talking...

For the outreach that has...

For people that have reached out to us, we have tried to be responsive this year related to what are we working on, what lays out ahead of us, and then we're also working with departments to put together a number of...

one-pagers that provide information that are frequently asked questions, whether it's related to infrastructure, sidewalks, water services.

issues that often are open space, things that often come up when we're in comp plan meetings.

And then we are also trying to respond to organizations and individuals as we are called to respond.

So for example, I'm going to a Wanawari event this evening to talk about our comp plan work.

We have a meeting at the end of the month to speak with number of sustainability and environment stakeholder groups that wanted to provide us some guidance.

So I appreciate the question.

I think the answer is For now, in 26, our community engagement is informal and in 27, we will be able to outline and present a formal community engagement process.

I appreciate that.

I just want to make sure that the informal reach-outs are equally as important, and that's where I feel like there could be improvement.

We'll say it that way.

So, again, we can talk more about this.

Thank you, Chair.

Thank you, and thank you Council Member Rank for indicating you'll ask questions on SharePoint and colleagues as well.

Council Member Lynn is chair of the committee overseeing the department.

You are recognized to close this out.

And then I'll have a few closing remarks and then we will be done.

All right, thank you, Chair.

just quickly.

First, just on EDI, I just want to highlight the importance of EDI.

I mean, colleagues have spoken to it, but just what an important generational investment it is.

You know, it has not been around that long, These investments are, I think, we're going to look back in 10, 20, 30 more years, and these are going to be critical cultural institutions that I think we're going to look back and be very thankful for that investment that we're making today.

So thank you for that.

Today's earthquake, wow, quite a reminder of just the importance of planning and understanding that we live on an uncertain ground and there are critical areas that we need to think more about, the unreinforced masonry in Pioneer Square CID.

Anyway, just reinforces why this planning work is so critical.

Yeah, so thank you for all you do.

Thank you, Chair.

Thank you, Council Member Lynn.

I forgot to ask you all, did you want any last words?

No, okay.

I will just contend with you, Council Member Lynn.

These are not uncertain grounds.

They are fill on top of fault lines.

Well, there you go.

All right.

Just so we're all clear.

Well, with that, that brings us to the end of this segment of budget.

Director Panucci, any closing words that you want for this segment?

This is your last day officially at the table.

We may elect to ask you to come back, but this is your last day officially here.

Do you want me to talk about one time spending one more time?

Just a little brevity, just a little brevity at the end.

Just thank you.

Sure, let's hear it again, Allie.

Thanks for all the time.

One more time.

I look forward to answering more questions as you move through your process and coming out the other side at the end of November.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I mean, we're still gonna be talking every day.

I will say that colleagues, Director and I had a miscommunication, not in an academic way, in a way that I didn't communicate well, so taking responsibility.

In past years, we've had the departments that don't present also create PowerPoints.

I did not make that request in the transition this year, so I've made that request for next year.

Lish has assured me that all of the information that would be in those PowerPoints, central staff will be presenting.

And so I'm not feeling a loss here and I'm taking accountability for missing that step in the transition.

We do, as you all know, we're coming accustomed to it.

Please use SharePoint.

Our next gathering of the Select Budget Committee will be the public hearing on October 6th.

Virtual starts at 1 p.m.

In-person starts at 5 p.m.

Individuals will have one minute 30 seconds.

Groups of three or more will have four minutes and 30 seconds.

Groups are difficult to do virtually, yet we will make that accommodation if that's your preference.

Our next segment after the public hearing will be central staff presentations.

And so I know your team is working hard, Director Whitson.

And then after central staff presentation, so we will have a verbal public comment there on October 13th as well.

and then the next deadline is the October 20th noon deadline for council member proposals to be submitted with two co-sponsors and you actually have to get the co-sponsors you can't just kind of ask people so with that any final business any anything for the good of the order This does conclude the Tuesday, September 29th, 2026 Select Budget Committee and Department Briefings and our next regular committee will be on October 13th as discussed.

We'll see you all on October 6th for the public hearing.

If there's no further business, we will be adjourned.

Hearing no further business, we are adjourned.

Thank you.